Showing posts with label Graphics. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Graphics. Show all posts

Monday, May 09, 2011

Best Bang per Buck Graphics Cards, April 2011



Here are the best bang per buck gaming graphics cards for April 2011, to help you decide on what graphics card to get for your new rig:


Price in US$ / Graphics card

  • $65 Radeon HD 5570 DDR3
  • $80 Radeon HD 5670
  • $105 GeForce GTS 450
  • $120 Radeon HD 5770 1GB
  • $165 Radeon HD 6850
  • $210 Radeon HD 6870
  • $240 Radeon HD 6950 1GB
  • $270 Radeon HD 6950 2GB
  • $330 2 x Radeon HD 6850 in CrossFire
  • $420 2 x Radeon HD 6870 in CrossFire
  • $540 2 x Radeon HD 6950 2GB in CrossFire
So nowadays, a Radeon HD 5570 DDR3 should be the minimum for a decent graphics card for a new rig. If you're looking for something in the mid-range, the Radeon HD 6850 is your best bet. This card could also be the base for an upgrade to a Crossfire configuration for dual graphics card happiness.

Read the Best Graphics Cards For The Money: April 2011 article by Tom's Hardware

Thursday, September 16, 2010

Best Bang per Buck Graphics Cards, for August 2010

Here are the best bang per buck gaming graphics cards for August 2010:

Price / Graphics Card:

  • (~$55) Radeon HD 4650
  • (~$75) GeForce GT 240 GDDR5
  • (~$105) Radeon HD 4850 1 GB
  • (~$105) GeForce GTS 250 1 GB
  • (~$135) Radeon HD 5750 1 GB
  • (~$155) Radeon HD 5770 1 GB
  • (~$200) GeForce GTX 460 768 MB
  • (~$200) Radeon HD 5830
  • (~$230) GeForce GTX 460 1 GB
  • (~$270) 2 x Radeon HD 5750 1 GB in CrossFire Configuration
  • (~$300) GeForce GTX 470
  • (~$460) 2 x GeForce GTX 460 1 GB in SLI Configuration
  • (~$600) 2 x GeForce GTX 470 in SLI Configuration
The Radeon HD 4650 is the best value graphics card. Those wanting an Nvidia card will have to spend a bit more for the GeForce GT 240 GDDR5.

If you intend to run dual graphics cards, but would want to purchase the pair one by one, the Radeon HD 5750 is a good choice. Again, the Nvidia fans will have to spend more with a pair of the GeForce GTX 460 1 GB.

[info derived from Tom's Hardware article]

Friday, January 22, 2010

ATI Radeon HD 5670 Graphics Card Reviewed

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The ATI Radeon HD 5670 (~US$100) from AMD offers DirectX 11 ready hardware at the $100 price point, competing with the GeForce 9600 GT, GeForce 9800 GT, GeForce GTS 250, Radeon HD 4770, and Radeon HD 4850.

 

Features:

  • 400 Shader Processors
  • 20 Texture Units
  • 8 Color ROPs
  • 775 MHz Core Clock
  • 1000 MHz GDDR5 Memory Clock
  • 128-bit Memory Bus
  • 4 Gb/s Data Rate
  • 0.62 Compute Power (TFLOPs)
  • 0.627 Transistors (Billions)
  • 61W Maximum Power
  • 14W Idle Power

 

Guru of 3D sees the Radeon HD 5670 as an excellent product for HTPCs:

“The Radeon HD 5760 is ideal for the lady's and gents that play games occasionally in a non-extreme way. It suits the regular PC user that that a lot of desktop work, or uses his/her PC as net or work PC. Next to that, and we have mentioned this several times now, the 5600 card series will be an excellent product for HTPCs. The sheer shader units count the GPU has embedded on it makes it very suitable for 1080P content playback with software like Media Player HT edition, in that software you can utilize and enable the shaders to post process image quality to a higher level. Next to that the embedded video processor (through UVD 2.0) will easily decode and accelerate your BluRay movies over the GPU. We can't wait to see some products with even more silent customized cooling.” [Guru of 3D | HD 5670]

 

HotHardware appreciates the Radeon HD 5670’s value performance and features:

“The Radeon HD 5670 will be available for purchase immediately at on-line retailers, in 512MB and 1GB flavors. If you're in the market for an affordable graphics card as an upgrade from an integrated solution or last-gen mainstream card, the Radeon HD 5670 is worth a serious look. AMD has just lowered the DirectX 11 cost of entry to below 100 bucks, and has done so with a product that doesn't skimp on features and offers very respectable performance for the money. That makes the Radeon HD 5670 a solid value in our book.” [HotHardware | HD 5670]

 

AnandTech feels that the Radeon HD 5670 is a "good enough card”, but still prefers an HD 4850:

“So where does that leave the 5670? The 5670 does surprisingly well against the 9800 GT. It wins in some cases, trails very slightly in a few more, and then outright loses only in games where the 5670 is already playable up to 1920x1200. From a performance standpoint I think the 9800 GT is ahead, but it’s not enough to matter; meanwhile the “green” 9800 GT shortens the gap even more, and it still is over 10W hotter than the 5670. The 5670 is a good enough replacement for the 9800 GT in that respect, plus it has support for DX11, Eyefinity, and 3D Blu-Ray when that launches later this year.” [AnandTech | HD 5670]

 

ExtremeTech compared the Radeon HD 5670 to the GeForce GT 240, and preferred the GT 240:

“Both the ATI Radeon HD 5670 and the PNY Verto GeForce GT 240 deliver modest gaming power for their $99 price. If your needs are simple—you're just looking for something to pep up your off-the-shelf (or off-the-download games) games, and maybe transcode some videos—either card should be sufficient. …

If you're choosing between a standard 5670 and a 512MB GT 240, we can solidly recommend the later. If, however, you plan on doing more serious gaming of any kind, or you want to play at resolutions much above about 1,680 by 1,050, you'd be better off spending just a little bit more for almost any other more powerful card. These cards have their limits—either should be an okay purchase for you as long as you don't make plans to exceed them.” [ExtremeTech | HD 5670]

 

Tom’s Hardware thinks that the Radeon HD 5670 will sell well if it goes down to the $80 price tag:

“It is this cutthroat ~$100 environment where the Radeon HD 5670 will be forced to sink or swim at $99. Here it will have to compete against the similarly-performing $80 GeForce 9600 GT, the slightly-faster $95 GeForce 9800 GT, the clearly-superior $110 Radeon HD 4770, and the vastly more attractive $110 Radeon HD 4850 / GeForce GTS 250. Purely from a performance standpoint, it would be madness to buy the Radeon HD 5670 instead of spending a couple dollars more for the Radeon HD 4850 or GeForce GTS 250. DirectX 11 isn't much of an issue here.” [Tom’s Hardware | HD 5670]

 

PC Perspective sees the Radeon HD 5670 the most well-rounded of next-gen GPUs:

“The new AMD Radeon HD 5670 graphics card is a great addition to the completely revamped lineup of graphics cards using ATI technology.  With it AMD has solidified DX11-ready hardware in the market for prices under $100 while moving features like Eyefinity and triple-LCD support to a wider user base as well.  The performance of the card is only on par with other $100 graphics boards like the GeForce GT 240 so we can't call it the runaway performance leader, but if you or someone you know is going to be looking for a GPU for under a Franklin, the HD 5670 is the most well-rounded of next-generation GPUs.” [PC Perspective | HD 5670]

 

As reviewed by a number of enthusiasts, the ATI Radeon HD 5670 is a good card for the regular desktop user, occasional gamer, and web surfer. This is also an excellent card if you are looking to build an HTPC.

 

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Monday, January 11, 2010

Best Bang Per Buck Gaming Graphics Card, January 2010

Price [in US Dollar] / Graphics Card:

  • (~$50) Radeon HD 4650
  • (~$65) Radeon HD 4670
  • (~$65) GeForce 9600 GSO
  • (~$90) GeForce 9800 GT
  • (~$110) Radeon HD 4850 512MB
  • (~$110) GeForce GTS 250 512MB
  • (~$125) GeForce GTS 250 1GB
  • (~$125) Radeon HD 4850 1 GB
  • (~$155) Radeon HD 5770
  • (~$200) Radeon HD 4890
  • (~$250) 2 x GeForce GTS 250 1GB in SLI Configuration
  • (~$250) 2 x Radeon HD 4850 1GB in CrossFire Configuration
  • (~$310) 2 x Radeon HD 5770 in CrossFire
  • (~$400) Two Radeon HD 4890 cards in CrossFire Configuration

 

If you are looking for a budget gaming card, the Radeon HD 4650 is it. In case you prefer Nvidia from ATI, your next choice is the GeForce 9600 GSO.

 

Looking for a nice single card, and would like to upgrade to SLI or Crossfire config later on? The GeForce GTS 250 1GB (for SLI) or Radeon HD 4850 1GB (for Crossfire) are good cards to consider. When the budget comes up, you can buy another card for that dual graphics setup. (Make sure your motherboard supports this first!)

 

[info derived from Tom’s Hardware article]

Monday, January 04, 2010

Intel Core i5-661 Clarkdale Processor Reviewed

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We take a look at one of Intel’s dual-core processors with built-in graphics core. This introduces a new two-chip package Intel architecture (CPU and Platform Control Hub), as opposed to the previous three-chip package (CPU, Northbridge, Southbridge).

Intel Clarkdale Processor Models (2 Cores, 4 Threads, 4MB cache, DDR3-1333 memory support):

  • i5-670 (3.46 GHz, up to 3.73 GHz Turbo Frequency, 733MHz Graphics Core speed, 73W TDP, US$284)
  • i5-661 (3.33 GHz, up to 3.60 GHz Turbo Frequency, 900MHz Graphics Core speed, 87W TDP, US$196)
  • i5-660 (3.33 GHz, up to 3.60 GHz Turbo Frequency, 733MHz Graphics Core speed, 73W TDP, US$196)
  • i5-650 (3.20 GHz, up to 3.46 GHz Turbo Frequency, 733MHz Graphics Core speed, 73W TDP, US$176)
  • i3-540 (3.06 GHz, No Turbo Frequency, 733MHz Graphics Core speed, 73W TDP, US$133)
  • i3-530 (2.93 GHz, No Turbo Frequency, 733MHz Graphics Core speed, 73W TDP, US$113)

PCPerspective suggests that you also look at the Core i3-530 processor as possible better alternative:

“We have Westmere parts in our hands (a bit earlier than we expected last year) with Clarkdale and while I am impressed to see the technology working, the processor really fills a specific market segment. The most specific thing I can say to a potential buyer of a Clarkdale processor is this: it only makes sense to buy one if you are going to utilize the integrated graphics. If you plan on adding a discrete graphics card anyway, then it makes more sense to use that processor budget for a Lynnfield part.

The exception to this? Extreme low cost requirements. You can get a Core i3 processor for $113 that will give you similar levels of CPU performance but without the Turbo Mode features. You still get the Intel HD Graphics and HyperThreading support so you could create a nice HTPC system for minimal cost by pairing it with one of the Intel HD55TC mATX motherboards or another option.” [PCPer.com | Core i5-661]

AnandTech feels that Clarkdale needs to improve its on-package memory controller:

“To conclude I can only go back to my only real complaints about Clarkdale. The off-die, on-package memory controller hampers performance. We've taken a step back in terms of memory latency, a step we can't correct until Sandy Bridge. I can't help but think that Clarkdale would be so much more competitive if it had Lynnfield's memory controller. I guess we'll have to wait a year to find out.

The other issue is that its pricing at the high end just doesn't make any sense. There isn't a single Core i5 I'd recommend, but the i3s are spot-on.” [AnandTech | Core i5 661]

Tom’s Hardsare sees promise in the home theater niche:

“The Core i5-661 we tested—which could easily be substituted for the i5-660 at the same price point—completely eclipses the Core 2 Duo E8500 and solidly rivals some of the fastest Core 2 Quads. Our opinion is reinforced by Intel’s limiting the H55 and H57 chipsets to a single graphics card.

Clarkdale also shows promise in the home theater. Support for hardware accelerated Blu-ray playback, multi-channel LPCM output, and lossless bitstreaming of high-def audio formats leaves very little else to be desired from a media-oriented platform, so long as you don’t intend to game on it. Not having to buy a discrete Radeon HD 5000-series graphics card means we’ll be seeing remarkably powerful mini-ITX platforms with 73W Clarkdale CPUs taking care of processing and graphics in one compact (affordable) package.” [Tom’s Hardware | Core i5-661]

HardwareZone enjoyed the better media playback, but not convinced with the i5-661’s performance when compared to a Core 2 Duo E8500:

“From a pure performance point of view, the new Intel HD Graphics is a slight upgrade over the GMA X4500HD, even in its fastest (900MHz) incarnation on the Core i5-661. What it does significantly better is media playback, where it certainly manages to justify its HD tag.

As a processor, the dual-core nature of the Core i5-661 meant that it was rarely going to challenge the higher-end quad-core processors, even with Turbo Boost and HyperThreading. Most of its better scores were naturally recorded for system suites like SYSmark 2007 and not heavily multi-threaded applications. In fact, from some of our benchmarks, we can't help but wonder if the smaller L3 cache on the Core i5-661 affected its performance compared to the older Core 2 Duo E8500.

With a US$196 price tag for 1k units, the Core i5-661 will likely be competing against Intel's own Core i5-750. And like we said, it won't surpass the quad-core. Still, we hope the new H55 motherboards are competitively priced to give these new Clarkdale processors more value. Already, unlike the i5-750, the i5-661 has a decent mainstream graphics core inside, which should be adequate for some users, including businesses.” [HardwareZone | Core i5-661]

Are the Clarkdale processors a good buy? It would depend on the prices of H55 motherboards, as HardwareZone pointed out. And, still talking about value, a Core i3-530 looks to offer the best bang per buck, among the Clarkdales, that is. For performance, the Core 2 Quad processors would most probably serve you better.

Tuesday, June 23, 2009

ATI Radeon HD 4890 Graphics Card Reviewed

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The ATI Radeon HD 4890 is one of many graphics cards in AMD’s Radeon HD 4000 series. It features:

  • 55nm fabrication process
  • PCI Express 2.0 x16 bus interface
  • 256-bit GDDR5 memory interface
  • Microsoft® DirectX 10.1 support
  • Shader Model 4.1 support
  • 800 stream processing units
  • OpenGL 3.0 support
  • ATI CrossFireX™ Multi-GPU Technology

HardwareZone reviewed the PowerColor PCS+ HD 4890 Battle Forge Edition card, and gave it a 4.5 out 5 rating:

“To sum up, the PowerColor PCS+ HD 4890 BF Edition is a very capable card. It offers decent performance and its cooler does the job. What we don't like, however, is that the cooler isn't that much less noisy than the reference model, and also the high power consumption figures (which is to be expected since it's overclocked). Even so, it is still one of the better Radeon HD 4890 cards around, and is definitely great value for money if your heart's set on a Radeon HD 4890.” [HardwareZone | PowerColor PCS+ HD 4890 Battle Forge Edition]

If you are interested in looking at what Nvidia has to offer in competition with the HD 4890, you could take a look at the GeForce GTX 275.

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Sunday, June 14, 2009

GeForce GTX 295 Reviewed

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The GeForce GTX 295 (around US$520) is a dual-GPU graphics card from Nvidia that features:

  • 240x2 Stream (Shader) Processors
  • 576 MHz Core Clock
  • 1242 MHz Shader Clock
  • 999 Memory Clock x2
  • 1792 MB Memory
  • HDCP support
  • Two Dual link DVI

The Guru of 3D took a close look at the Point of View GeForce GTX 295 single PCB, and gave it the Guru3D Top Pick stamp of approval:

“Much like any of our GeForce GTX 295 reviews, we can only conclude that the GTX 295 single PCB graphics card pwns. Really it's a 480 shader processor encounting raw fricking compute monster, I liked the first model when it was released, and I like this version just as well. … Either way, we liked the GTX 295 ever since it was introduced, and this revised model does not make that conclusion any different. If you want to be a total freak and go quad-SLI, you can mix and match the old GTX 295 with this new one, not a problem either.” [Guru of 3D |GeForce GTX 295 single PCB review]

Great graphics card to have, if you’ve got money to burn! Need more down-to-earth gaming graphics card suggestions? Head on to cedled’s Game!

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Thursday, February 19, 2009

Best Bang Per Buck Core i7 System Build

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ExtremeTech builds a 'Bang for the Buck' based on the Intel Core i7 processor. The result was a combination of peripherals that give you the best value for your money.

Specifications:

  • Antec 300 case
  • Antec Earthwatts 650 PSU
  • ASUS P6T motherboard
  • Intel Core i7 920 processor
  • 6GB (2x3 DIMMS) OCZ Gold DDR3 Triple-channel 1600MHz memory
  • Western Digital WD1001FALS Black Ed. 1TB HDD
  • Lite-On DH401S BD optical drive
  • AMD ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB graphics card
  • Creative SoundBlaster Titanium sound card
  • Logitech Wave keyboard
  • Logitech G5 mouse
  • Dell S2409W Widescreen 1920x1080 LCD Monitor
  • Creative GigaWorks T40 speakers
  • Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit operating system

"This Bang for the Buck turned out more expensive than past efforts, but it's also more forward-looking. ... Even if you're only upgrading, we can't recommend higher each part in this system as it is, in our estimation, the best you can get for your money. Choose wisely, but consider this a guide. " [ExtremeTech | Build a Bang for the Buck PC]

The total bill for this build was US$2040. Take note that the setup is not a 'budget value system', but a best value and performance for your money build. If you prefer a different component, such as an AMD processor (and appropriate mobo of course) or Nvidia graphics card, you can just change the specs to your liking, using the above components as a guide.

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Tuesday, January 20, 2009

Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 Reviewed

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The Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 (about $400) was recently released. It is based on the GT200 Core Code, and with 55nm Manufacturing Process.

Key Features:

  • 240 Stream Processors
  • 80 Texture Address / 80 Filtering
  • 32 ROPs
  • 648MHz Core Clock
  • 1476MHz Shader Clock
  • 1242MHz Memory Clock
  • 512-bit Memory Bus Width
  • 1GB Frame Buffer
  • 55nm Manufacturing Process
  • GT200 Core Code

Guru of 3D reviewed the EVGA GeForce GTX 285 SSC, Inno3D GeForce GTX 285 OC, and Point of View GeForce GTX 285 EXO. The eVGA was the Top Pick:

"... the GeForce GTX 280 was the fastest single GPU on the globe, the GeForce GTX 285 is now the fastest single GPU on the globe. On average it's roughly 10% faster than the reference GTX 280. So an upgrade towards the 55nm node did bring in some additional gaming performance." [Guru3D | GeForce GTX 285 review]

HotHardware tested an EVGA GeForce GTX 285 SSC and a GeForce GTX 285 reference card:

"The new GeForce GTX 285's performance falls right where you'd expect it to--just slightly ahead of the GeForce GTX 280, but behind the flagship GTX 295. Throughout our testing, the reference GeForce GTX 285 performed right about on par with, or barely faster than a GTX 280. However the higher core, shader, and memory clock frequencies of the EVGA GeForce GTX 285 SSE Edition gave it a larger edge in performance over the GTX 280. Overall, the dual-GPU powered Radeon HD 4870 X2 and GeForce GTX 295 are faster and more powerful than the GTX 285 in games that scale well with multi-GPU configurations, but the GeForce GTX 285 is the fastest single-GPU powered graphics card available today, hands down." [HotHardware | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 Unveiled]

PCPerspective tested the BFG GeForce GTX 285 OCX 1GB and ASUS ENGTX285 TOP 1GB cards:

"... the GeForce GTX 285 is definitely using less power than the GTX 280 card all while running at higher clock speeds and performing better in our gaming tests. The 55nm process might not have paid off as much of a dividend as we were initially hoping on the GT200 design but financially this is a move NVIDIA needed to make. You really can't ask for much more than that! ... If you already own a GTX 280 or even at GTX 260 card, I don't think the GTX 285 is going to add enough performance to warrant the upgrade price but users of the 9-series cards or even 3000-series card from AMD should definitely perk up their ears a bit with the release." [PCPerspective | 55nm GT200: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 1GB Review]

HardwareZone tested the Zotac GeForce GTX 285 AMP! Edition 1GB GDDR3:

"... unlike the GeForce GTX 295, the GeForce GTX 285 is not as groundbreaking and its successes are no where near the scale of that achieved by its more powerful sibling. Sure, it does improve upon performance and efficiency, but it's not to the same extent as what the GeForce GTX 295 did. And without a Radeon HD 4850 X2 on hand, we cannot say with certainty if the GeForce GTX 285 is the best card in its price and performance segment. However, as far as single GPUs go, NVIDIA has clearly one-upped themselves here. The GeForce GTX 285 is certainly an improvement over the GTX 280." [HardwareZone | Cementing First Place - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285]

AnandTech tested the EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 in single and SLI configuration:

"In summary, despite its typical 10% performance advantage, the GeForce GTX 285 offers less price/performance than the GTX 280. The closest price competitor to the GTX 285, the Radeon HD 4870 X2, also offers better value, but at a higher price. At the same time, we have reservations about putting our weight behind the 4870 X2 with the driver issues we've experienced lately." [AnandTech | GeForce GTX 285: 55nm Enabling Higher Performance]

Do you want or need the fastest single GPU on the planet? The GTX 285 is it. If you already have a GTX 280, don't expect much of a performance upgrade. This would be good news for those targeting the GTX 280, since it would surely get more price cuts as the GTX 285 goes mainstream.

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Thursday, November 27, 2008

16 Thermal Compounds Tested

box img X-bit Labs tested 16 different thermal compounds, and compared their efficiency on an overclocked Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 (3.0GHz, 1.25V, 2x6MB L2 cache, 4x333MHz FSB, Yorkfield, C0) processor, and a HIS Radeon HD 4870 GDDR5 512MB / 256bit, @830 (300) / 3600MHz graphics card.

Thermal Compounds tested:

  • Arctic Silver 5
  • Pro-Thermal 81
  • IC Diamond 7 Carat
  • AiT Cool Silver
  • Arctic Alumina
  • OCZ Ultra 5+ Silver (OCZU5STP)
  • OCZ Freeze Extreme (OCZTFRZTC)
  • Zalman ZM-STG1
  • ZEROtherm ZT-100
  • Noctua NT-H1
  • Tuniq TX-2
  • Arctic Cooling MX-2
  • Coollaboratory Liquid MetalPad
  • Coollaboratory Liquid Pro
  • Gelid GC1
  • SilMORE (usually bundled with some Scythe, Thermaltake, Xigmatek, Ice Hammer, OCZ CPU coolers)

"As for the winners, I can certainly single out liquid metal from Coollaboratory and Coollaboratory Liquid MetalPad with a few remarks regarding its proper use that should be taken into account. The new OCZ Freeze Extreme performed extremely well as a highly efficient, relatively inexpensive and very easy to work with. The good old Arctic Silver 5 still holds on to its leading position successfully, although now it has at least eight worthy competitors to worry about. Overall, it is very pleasing to see that there are more than 2-3 worthy thermal interfaces around. And of course, do not forget that thermal interface is simply a substance to fill into the micro-pores between the cooler base and the processor heat-spreader. You have to make sure that both these surfaces are very even, because no "millimeter" layer of thermal compound usually applied by newbies and several "experienced" testers out there will guarantee efficient cooling and objective cooler comparison." [X-bit Labs | Thermal Interfaces Roundup]

X-bit labs suggests that we stay away from the bundled SilMORE thermal compound, and try to avoid AiT Cool Silver, Pro-Thermal 81, and Zalman ZM-STG1.

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Thursday, November 20, 2008

ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 Graphics Cards Tested

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HotHardware compared two graphics cards based on the ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2. The cards were:

  • Asus Radeon HD 4870 X2 Top (EAH4870X2 TOP)
  • MSI Radeon HD 4870 X2 OC Edition (R4870X2-T2D2G-OC)

Tom's Hardware also compared four graphics cards. The cards reviewed were:

  • Asus Radeon HD 4870 X2 Top (EAH4870X2 TOP/HTDI/2G/A)
  • HIS Radeon HD 4870 X2 (H487X2F2GP)
  • MSI Radeon HD 4870 X2 OC Edition (R4870X2-T2D2G-OC)
  • Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 X2 (HD4870 X2 G2 GDDR5)

ATI Radeon baseline Specs:

  • Codename: R700
  • 2x1024 MB GDDR5 Memory
  • 750MHz GPU Clock
  • 4.1 Shader Model
  • 3600MHz Memory Clock
  • 2x800 Stream Processors

"As expected, the Asus EAH4870X2 TOP and MSI R4870X2-T2D2G-OC both outperformed a reference Radeon HD 4870 X2, nearly across the board. The only instance where the factory overclocked Asus and MSI cards didn't clearly outpace the reference card was in the CPU bound 3DMark06 default test. In the SM 3.0 / HDR tests build into 3DMark06, however, the Asus and MSI cards came out on the top. Overall, the Asus EAH4870X2 TOP finished just ahead of the MSI R4870X2-T2D2G-OC due to its slightly higher GPU and memory frequencies, but the performance deltas were minimal." [HotHardware | Overclocked Radeon HD 4870 X2 Shoot-Out]

HotHardware gave both cards, the Asus and MSI, its Recommended stamp.

"The Radeon HD 4870 X2 has a good cooling solution with both of its graphics chips running at full clock speed when the performance is needed. It gets clocked down when running in 2D mode and it comes with 2 x 1 GB of fast graphics memory for high-resolution environments with lots of visual detail. AMD has certainly done a very good job." [Tom's Hardware | Radeon HD 4870 X2: Four Cards Compared]

Tom's Hardware gave the Sapphire its best-buy recommendation. Likewise, the Asus (for fan profiles and overclocking) and MSI (aggressive thermal profiling, resulting in lowered GPU temps) were also recommended.

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Thursday, October 30, 2008

ATI Radeon HD 4830 Graphics Card Reviewed

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The Radeon HD 4830 (US$130) is an ATI-based graphics card that has the following features:

  • RV770LE GPU code
  • 575MHz Core Clock Speed
  • 512MB GDDR3 Memory
  • 1.8GHz Effective Memory Clock Speed
  • 57.6GB/sec Memory Bandwidth
  • 640 Stream Processors
  • 32 Texture Units
  • 740 GFLOPs Compute Power
  • 110W Max Board Power

PC Perspective feel that the HD 4830 is a great addition to the mid-range graphics market:

"AMD's latest entry into the graphics card market is a great addition to the mid-range market offering up tremendous gaming performance for less than $130 and putting NVIDIA's G92-based GeForce 9800 GT in a tight spot for the first time since its introduction. Both card offerings will most likely provide a good gaming experience, and I do have to mention the CUDA and PhysX support of the NVIDIA GPUs, but in the end I still side with raw performance and think the HD 4830 512MB card will be the better option." [PCPer.com | AMD Radeon HD 4830 512MB]

AnandTech compared the HD 4830 to the 4870, 4850, 4670, GeForce GTX 260 core 216, GTX 260, 9800 GTX+, and 9800 GT cards:

"The performance gap at the $120-$130 price range for a target resolution of 1680x1050 between the 9800 GT and the 4830, in practical terms, isn't that much. Both are playable in the majority of games we tested. The exceptions are Age of Conan and Crysis which can get by at 1280x1024 (or with decreased quality settings). While you may get a smoother experience on the AMD card in general, you won't get a significantly more playable experience in most cases in the games we tested." [AnandTech | AMD Radeon HD 4830]

HardwareZone tested compared 3 HD 4830 cards to the 4850, 4670, GeForce 9800 GT, and 9600 GSO cards:

"... how does it compare against the GeForce 9800 GT? It is very close, but if you were an ATI fanboy, you would probably say it is perhaps the equivalent of an overclocked GeForce 9800 GT (our results did show that it bettered the factory-overclocked Zotac card in some tests), whereas if you belong to the green camp, you think, "Yeah, it's about as good as the GeForce 9800 GT". Simply put, there is very little to separate the two cards, but we think it's fair to say that the performance of the 4830 falls quite neatly between that of a reference-clocked GeForce 9800 GT and an overclocked one." [HardwareZone | Plugging the Performance Gap - The ATI Radeon HD 4830]

HotHardware.com gives its Recommended award to the Radeon HD 4830:

"The new ATI Radeon HD 4830 performed right in line with its position in the market--the card was clearly faster than the more affordable Radeon HD 4670 and a bit slower than the pricer Radeon HD 4850. In comparison to NVIDIA's offerings, the 4830 is typically faster than the GeForce 9600 and about on par with or somewhat slower than a GeForce 9800 GT." [HotHardware | ATI Radeon HD 4830 Mainstream GPU]

FiringSquad.com compared the 4830 with the Radeon HD 3850, HD 4850, GeForce 8800 GT, 9600 GT, and 9800 GTX cards:

"Even if ATI doesn't improve their performance in Far Cry 2, the Radeon 4830 is still an excellent overall performer, besting GeForce 9800 GT in Crysis and drawing even in STALKER: Clear Sky. Its superior 8xAA performance is icing on the cake, putting it over the top if you crave the crispest visuals. NVIDIA still doesn't have an answer to this particular problem, even with their latest Big Bang II beta driver. This is ATI's chief advantage over NVIDIA this generation." [FiringSquad | ATI Radeon HD 4830 Performance Preview]

If you have your sights set on a 9800 GT, but would also like to try an ATI graphics card, the HD 4830 wouldn't disappoint.

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Tuesday, October 28, 2008

Nvidia GeForce 9400 / 9300 IGP Chipset Reviewed

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Nvidia GeForce 9400/9300 MGPU (code named the MCP7A) is an IGP chipset solution for the Intel platform, which directly competes with the chipsets from Intel. The chipset features are as follows:

  • Intel Core 2 Family, Pentium D, Pentium 4, Celeron D, Celeron
  • 1333 Mhz FSB
  • Dual-channel DDR2-800 / DDR3-1333 Memory Interface
  • DirectX 10 Support
  • 16 Graphics Cores
  • 580/1400 MHz (9400) or 450/1200 MHz (9300) Core/Shader Clocks
  • 3.6 Billion/second Texture Fill Rate
  • 128-bit Max. HDR Precision
  • 2048 × 1536 Max. Analog Resolution
  • 2560 × 1600 Max Digital Resolution
  • GeForce Boost Technology
  • HybridPower Technology
  • NVIDIA PureVideo HD With full HD decode (1080i/p)
  • PCI-Express 2.0 support
  • 10/100/1000 Networking
  • HDA (Azalia) audio
  • 7.1 LPCM HD Audio Support

Guru3D tested the ECS GF9300T-A-V1.0 motherboard:

"... the GF9300 based mainboards will be a flexible solution, and not just for the budget minded. It performs as fast as any modern mainboard, you can make it a gaming rig, you can use it excellently for HTPC and if it floats your boat, it's a nice NET PC as well. I also think it's lovely we can use the integrated GPU, if not utilized for graphics, for CUDA, transcoding, PhysX and whatever new applications we'll see in the future... if you're looking for a competitive IGP solution, and a versatile and flexible mainboard that's not too expensive... this should be ranking at the top of your list. Definitely recommended." [Guru3D.com| NVIDIA GF9300 (ECS GF9300TA) mainboard review]

AnandTech had comparisons IGP boards - Nvidia 9400 / 9300 / 8300 / 8200, AMD 790GX / 780G, Intel G45 / G35:

"Everyone likes a clean victory; while NVIDIA has the opportunity to obtain just that with the GeForce 9300, there are a handful of lingering issues that cause them to hit just wide of the bullseye... if these problems are quickly addressed, the GeForce 9300 is as close to perfect as you're going to get for now... The GeForce 9300 is leaps and bounds ahead of Intel's G45, but that's not really a tremendous accomplishment. What NVIDIA has done however is effectively bring 780G-class performance to the Intel platform, which is better than nothing." [AnandTech | The IGP Chronicles Part 3: NVIDIA's GeForce 9300]

HotHardware.com tested two 9300 motherboards - Zotac GeForce 9300 and Asus P5N7A-VM - and compared it with mainboards with the Intel G45:

"In comparison to Intel's G45 chipset, the GeForce 9300 generally performs on roughly the same level in productivity applications, with a slight edge going to the G45 where its increased memory bandwidth comes into play. In any GPU intensive situation, however, the GeForce 9300 is simply on a different level than the G45. In the game tests, for example, the GeForce 9300 was up to 4.4X faster than the G45. ... If you're thinking about building a low-cost, low-power Intel-based rig or an HTPC anytime in the near future, do yourself a favor and check out the GeForce 9300 or GeForce 9400." [HotHardware.com | NVIDIA GeForce 9300 and 9400 Motherboard GPUs]

PC Perspective took a look at three motherboards - the MSI P7NGM-Digital (9300), Zotac GF9300-A-E, and ASUS P5N7A-VM (9300) - and compared it to an Intel DG45ID (G45 chipset):

"NVIDIA's new GeForce 9400 and 9300 chipsets are a breath of fresh air in a world of integrated Intel platforms that have underperformed. With the exceptions of synthetic memory performance and some nagging issues with the tested motherboards BIOS, the GF9300 chipset was a success from every angle. The graphics performance is without a doubt a level of magnitude improvement over the G45 chipset and added benefits like CUDA, Hybrid SLI and the coming onslaught of multimedia applications accelerated by GPUs make motherboards based on the NVIDIA GeForce 9400/9300 chipsets an easy choice." [pcper.com | NVIDIA GeForce 9400/9300 Chipset Review: IGP for Intel ]

As soon as the Nvidia 9300 and 9400 motherboards are available in the retail market, builders will have a choice of IGP motherboards when building a rig based on the Intel processor. Judging from the above reviews, the Nvidia 9400/9300 MGPU is the better way to go.

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Tuesday, October 14, 2008

Budget Graphics Compared: GeForce 9400 GT vs. Radeon HD 4550

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Two new budget graphics cards came into play recently. These are the GeForce 9400 GT from Nvidia, and the Radeon HD 4550 from ATI. Their specs are as follows:

GeForce 9400 GT (US$59):

  • G96 Core Code
  • 314 million Transistor Count
  • 55nm Manufacturing Process
  • 550MHz Core Clock
  • 16 Stream processors
  • 1400MHz Stream Processor Clock
  • 16 Texture Mapping Units (TMU) or Texture Filtering (TF) units
  • 8 Raster Operator units (ROP)
  • 800MHz GDDR2 Memory Clock
  • 128-bit DDR Memory Bus
  • 12.8GB/s Memory Bandwidth
  • PCIe ver 2.0 x16 interface
  • no Multi GPU Technology support
  • HDCP Output Support

Radeon HD 4550 ($45-55):

  • RV710 Core Code
  • 242 million Transistor Count
  • 55nm Manufacturing Process
  • 600MHz Core Clock
  • 80 Stream processors
  • 600MHz Stream Processor Clock
  • 8 Texture Mapping Units (TMU) or Texture Filtering (TF) units
  • 4 Raster Operator units (ROP)
  • 1600MHz GDDR3 Memory Clock
  • 64-bit DDR Memory Bus
  • 12.8GB/s Memory Bandwidth
  • PCIe ver 2.0 x16 interface
  • CrossfireX Multi GPU Technology support
  • HDCP Output Support

AnandTech compared the HD 4550 with HD 3650, GF 9500 GT, and HD 4670 cards:

"Anyway, the point is that with cards in this class, you can't expect gaming performance. And even still we have cards that absolutely blow away integrated graphics. This really does highlight just how how horrible the performance of integrated solutions really is in comparison to any modern add-in graphics part. But that doesn't mean these cards don't have some value. Not everyone needs 3D, and these cards are priced very well. And more importantly, these cards offer a real solution to a problem HTPC builders have been faced with for a long time. The Radeon 4350 and 4550 offer quiet or silent video acceleration for full resolution blu-ray playback with the option of enabling 8 channel LPCM audio playback over HDMI. If you want to build an HTPC, one of these cards would be a very good fit." [AnandTech | ATI Radeon HD 4350 and 4550: Great HTPC Solutions]

HardwareZone gave the GeForce 9400 GT a 3.5 stars rating, and gave the Radeon HD 4550 a 4 stars rating:

"... the GeForce 9400 GT needs some improvements to match the Radeon HD 4550. In terms of performance, the 4550 was always faster than the 9400 GT, though this margin varied from game to game. When it came to power consumption, the Radeon again had the advantage, albeit a rather slight one. Finally, if you're battling for the hearts and minds of HTPC enthusiasts, ATI has a rather significant advantage in being able to offer 7.1 channel HD audio through its DVI/HDMI outputs, something that NVIDIA cannot do, even with a S/PDIF cable. Then, there's the matter of VC-1 hardware acceleration, which ATI just does better (though the market does seem to be favoring H.264 in Blu-ray nowadays)." [HardwareZone | When Budget Graphics Clash: GeForce 9400 GT Meets Radeon HD 4550 ]

I agree with HardwareZone's suggestion of taking a good look at the older mainstream graphic cards such as the GeForce 8600 GT and Radeon HD 3650, before committing to buy a 9400 GT or HD 4550.

The HD 4550 seemed to perform better than the 9400 GT, despite the Radeon's 64-bit DDR Memory Bus. And if you need 7.1 channel HD audio, the HD 4550 card is the one to get, and a nice one if you are thinking of building and HTPC.

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Thursday, October 09, 2008

Best Bang Per Buck Graphics Cards for October 2008

Tom's Hardware recently released their October 2008 choice picks for gaming video cards.

Recommended PCI-E cards:

  • Radeon HD 3650 GDDR3 (US$35)
  • Radeon HD 4670 GDDR3 ($85)
  • GeForce 9600 GSO (aka GeForce 8800 GS) ($85)
  • Radeon HD 3870 ($100)
  • GeForce 9600 GT ($100)
  • GeForce 8800 GT 512MB (aka GeForce 9800 GT 512MB) ($120)
  • Radeon HD 4850 ($170)
  • Radeon HD 4870 ($260)
  • GeForce GTX 260 ($260)
  • GeForce 9800 GX2 ($260)
  • 2x Radeon HD 4850 in CrossFire Configuration ($340)
  • Radeon HD 4870 X2 ($550)

If you are building a new system, and will just use it for some very light gaming on the side, the Radeon HD 3650 GDDR3 would probably be a good-enough discreet graphics solution. Other than that, the 8800 GT 512MB, 9800 GT 512MB, and HD 4850 seem to be the "middle-ground" choice cards.

Recommended AGP cards:

  • Radeon HD 3650 (under $US100)
  • Radeon HD 2600 XT ($100)
  • Radeon HD 3850 512MB ($135)

[Source: Tom's Hardware | The Best Graphics Cards for the Money: October 2008]

It's interesting to note that an AGP HD 3650 card would cost almost 3 times a PCI-E card with the same GPU. Unless you need to replace a broken AGP card, maybe that $100 is best kept for your next system build.

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Thursday, October 02, 2008

Factory Modified GeForce 9600 GT Graphics Cards Compared

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Looking to buy a new graphics card based on the GeForce 9600 GT? Maybe you'd be interested in one of the souped-up 9600 GT cards from Asus, MSI, Palit, or Sparkle.

Tom's Hardware tested 4 modified 9600 GT graphics cards:

"If you prefer a lot of performance, you should go with the super-quiet Sparkle Calibre. If you can live with a little less speed, but want to have HDMI and DisplayPort, you should buy the Palit Sonic version. The MSI Hybrid Freezer is a nice gimmick, but you can get a 9800 GTX for the same money. If you are interested in having a silent HTPC, you might want to take a look at the Asus card; the cooler is solid, and only under full load conditions does it require a slight air flow." [Tom's Hardware | Four GeForce 9600 GT Cards Compared]

Of the 4 cards reviewed, it looks like the Sparkle Calibre gets performance honors. The Palit Sonic is something to consider if you plan to use HDMI or DisplayPort on your rig.

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Thursday, September 11, 2008

ATI Radeon HD 4670 Graphics Card Reviewed

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The ATI Radeon HD 4670 (~US$79) is a graphics card that features:

  • RV730 Core Code
  • 55 nm Manufacturing Process
  • 750MHz Core Clock
  • 64 Shader processors consisting of 320 Stream Processing units
  • 750MHz Stream Processor Clock
  • 16 Texture Mapping Units (TMU) or Texture Filtering (TF) units
  • 8 Raster Operator units (ROP)
  • 2000MHz DDR3 Memory Clock
  • 128-bit DDR Memory Bus
  • 32.0GB/s Memory Bandwidth
  • PCIe ver 2.0 x16
  • CrossFireX Multi GPU Technology
  • 2 x Dual-Link DVI Output
  • HDCP Output Support

AnandTech prefers the 4670 than the 9500 GT:

"Yes the 4670 out performs the 9500 GT. ... The hardware does outperform the competition at the same price point (though that isn't saying much), and we even get playable performance at 1280x1024 (a key target resolution for budget systems). But we'd still recommend spending a little bit more (about $100 total) for something like a 9600 GT or 8800 GT (if the 3870 were priced closer to $100 we'd recommend it as an option as well, but it hasn't quite dropped down low enough yet). " [ AnandTech | AMD Radeon HD 4670: Ruling from Top to Bottom ]

HardwareZone gave it 4.5 out of 5 stars:

" With all the features that one can expect from a Radeon HD 4000 series card, including the potential for CrossFireX, the Radeon HD 4670 looks like an attractive prospect, especially at its recommended retail price of US$79. You can expect to pay a bit more for the PowerColor of course but the advantages should balance out. ... It's not all sunshine for ATI though. We did not include the scores for the Radeon HD 4850 in our benchmarks here because the performance gap is simply too wide. ATI now has a lack of 'new' Radeon 4000 cards to fill in the gap between a Radeon HD 4670 and a 4850. For now, it's relying on the older Radeon HD 3800 cards to do that job but that's only if you don't mind having slightly older features. " [HardwareZone | ATI's Mainstream Challenge - PowerColor PCS HD 4670 ]

PC Perspective feels that the HD 4670 will probably sit in well with casual gamers:

"The AMD Radeon HD 4670 512MB card is nothing less than one of the best values in budget graphics in years. For under $90 you can game with today's top titles, build a sweet home theater PC and leave yourself open for a nice upgrade months down the line with an impressive CrossFire scaling. Gamers that are looking to push resolutions of 1920x1200 or beyond will likely need to upgrade their budget and move up the line of graphics card performance but I have a good suspicion that most casual PC gamers will find themselves impressed by the HD 4670." [PCPer.com | AMD Radeon HD 4670 512MB Review]

So, if you are looking for an $80 graphics card, the Radeon HD 4670 will be a better choice than the Nvidia 9500 GT. If you could spend $20 more, get a 9600 GT or 8800 GT instead.

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Saturday, August 09, 2008

AMD 790GX Integrated Graphics Chipset Reviewed

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The AMD 790GX is an integrated graphics chipset that has the following features:

  • HT 3.0/5,200 MT/s Processor Interface
  • PCI Express 2.0/26 lanes/2x8 Graphics support
  • RV610 integrated core (same with AMD 780G)
  • DirectX 10.1 / OpenGL 2.1
  • 700 MHz Graphics Clock
  • DisplayPort, HDMI, DVI, VGA Display Outputs
  • Hybrid CrossFireX, CrossFireX Multi-GPU support
  • SB750 Southbridge (AMD 780G uses SB700)
  • A-Link Xpress (4 x PCIe 1.1) Interconnect
  • RAID 0, 1, 10, 5 support (AMD 780G lacked RAID 5)

Tom's Hardware compared the Gigabyte MA790GP-DS4H (790GX) with the Gigabyte MA78GPM-D2SH (780G) and ASUS M3N78 PRO (GeForce 8300) motherboards:

"... The SB750 is AMD's real strength here. Otherwise, we'd probably go for the inexpensive 780G with a Radeon HD 3870 or 4850. But with ACC and RAID 5 support wrapped up into AMD's new southbridge, the company finally has a platform to tie the assets it acquired from ATI into its own processor lineup. Naturally, it helps that the onboard RV610 core is now running at 700 MHz and aided by side-port memory. The main story here is ACC and what AMD is doing to make its processors more attractive in the face of a formidable opponent." [Tom's Hardware | AMD 790GX: RV610 For Enthusiasts?]

AnandTech previewed the 790GX:

"The 790GX Northbridge is actually a 780G that has its stock core clock speed increased from 500MHz to 700MHz along with a graphics core name change from Radeon HD 3200 to HD 3300. Sideport Memory, now called Performance Cache, is a "requested" feature on the boards that improves IG performance about 5% on average, sometimes less, sometimes more. The SB750 Southbridge is basically a SB700 with RAID 5 operation and the new ACC interface. Mix the two parts, stir, and you have the highest performing integrated graphics solution on the market today." [AnandTech | AMD 790GX - The Introduction]

The bottom line is that if you are decided with going with the AMD chipset route for your system build, the 790GX is the right choice if you need RAID 5, and are interested in some overclocking (thanks to the Advanced Clock Calibration).

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Thursday, August 07, 2008

Best Bang Per Buck Graphics Cards for August 2008

(Please see October 2008 article)

Tom's Hardware recently released their monthly article on the Best Video Cards For The Money: August '08.

The recommended PCI-E cards were the following:

  • GeForce 9500 GT GDDR3 (under $100)
  • Radeon 3850 512MB (about $100)
  • GeForce 9600 GT 512MB (about $125)
  • Radeon 3870 (about $125)
  • GeForce 8800 GT 512MB (about $150)
  • Radeon 4850 (about $175)
  • Radeon 4870 (about $280)
  • 2x Radeon 4850 in Crossfire Configuration (about $350)
  • 2x GeForce 9800 GTX in SLI Configuration (about $360)

Most inexpensive PCI-E gaming card:

"The 9500 GT GDDR3 is essentially a reworking and optimization of the popular 8600 GTS GPU on a smaller process. ... The extra $30 is well worth stepping up to a Radeon 3850, but if you want the absolute cheapest gaming card and don't plan to go higher than the 1280x1024 resolution, the 9500 GT is a good option. Just be sure to get the faster GDDR3 version, not the slower DDR2-equipped cards." [Tom's Hardware]

Maximum is US$360 for most expensive PCI-E gaming card setup:

"... we have a hard time recommending anything more expensive than two Radeon 4850s. As more data surfaces as to how the 4870, GTX 260 and GTX 280 perform in multiple card configurations compared to two 4850s in Crossfire, we might add a higher price point to the list. But for now, the power of two 4850's in Crossfire is our top recommendation for performance. ... While two Radeon 4850s are really the way to go in terms of price/performance, those of you who have an SLI motherboard will probably find staying with Nvidia's video cards a cost-effective choice. For you folks, two GeForce 9800 GTX cards are about as good as it gets..." [Tom's Hardware]

The recommended AGP cards were the following:

  • Radeon HD 2600 PRO (under $100)
  • Radeon HD 2600 XT (about $100)
  • Radeon 3850 512MB (about $140)

Sadly for AGP, Radeon HD cards are usually a rarity on store shelves. I guess if you see a Radeon 3850 512MB for sale, grab it immediately.

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Tuesday, August 05, 2008

NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT 512MB GDDR3

g96 imgThe GeForce 9500 GT (US$70-90) is a GPU from Nvidia that features:

  • G96 Core Code
  • 314 million Transisitor Count
  • 65nm Manufacturing Process
  • 550MHz Core Clock
  • 32 Stream Processors
  • 1400MHz Stream Processor Clock
  • 16 Texture Mapping Units (TMU) or Texture Filtering (TF) units
  • 8 Raster Operator units (ROP)
  • 1600MHz GDDR3 or 1000MHz GDDR2 Memory Clock
  • 128-bit DDR Memory Bus
  • 25.6GB/s (GDDR3) or 16.0GB/s (GDDR2) Memory Bandwidth
  • PCIe ver 2.0 x16 interface
  • Multi GPU Technology support
  • 2 x Dual-Link DVI Output support
  • HDCP Output Support

HardwareZone gave the Zotac GeForce 9500 GT 512MB GDDR3 a 4 out of 5 rating:

"While the GeForce 9500 GT does not appear to be a blatant carbon copy of any existing GeForce 8 GPU like how the GeForce 9800 GT is practically a GeForce 8800 GT, it is also not that different from the incumbent GeForce 8600 series. ... ATI's competing Radeon HD 3650 was quite clearly the inferior GPU compared to the newcomer, so NVIDIA still has the edge here. Power consumption too was quite favorable for the GeForce 9500 GT. ... if you already possess a GeForce 8 card of a similar caliber (or even a GeForce 7 of the same range), it's a lateral upgrade at best, not a move up the performance ladder. If you're new to all these and looking for a decent mainstream option, the GeForce 9500 GT could be a good choice at its price range of US$70 - 90. " [HardwareZone | NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT 512MB GDDR3]

As HardwareZone suggests, if you plan to play modern games, it would be best to spend a little bit more and get a true performance mainstream GPU like a GeForce 9600 GSO, GeForce 9600 GT or Radeon HD 3850. And yes, if you are not in a hurry for a new 9600 GT, it might be worthwhile to wait for the coming 55nm Manufacturing Process versions.

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